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PostSubject: How do you write your lists?   Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:17 am

i've just been talking to one of the guys at my club on how i write my lists and it got me thinking about how other people write theirs so;

how do you guys write yours?
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PostSubject: Re: How do you write your lists?   Fri Jan 06, 2012 6:14 pm

I've got a note pad that i write all my army lists in then i spend time with the codex.
i limit myself to what i have in my collection if i'm playing a game at home so the list writes itself. although when i go across to the Sultan club i can use some of their minatures as long as i put them back so it becomes a little harder.
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PostSubject: Re: How do you write your lists?   Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:41 pm

I tend to do mine quite simply in FOC order, here's a typical example I'm working on for a 2500pt game next week:

Daemon Prince, mark of Slanesh, wings. 155pts

Lucious the Eternal. 160pts

Greater Daemon. 100pts

Elites

6 Possessed, Icon of Slanesh, Champion. 186pts
Rhino, dozer blade. 40pts

6 Chosen, Icon of Slanesh, Champion. 138pts
Rhino, dozer blade. 40pts

6 Terminators, Icon of Slanesh, Reaper auto cannon, 2 combi meltas, champion with chainfist. 255pts

Troops

6 Noise Marines, 5 sonic blasters, 1 blastmaster, personal icon. 190pts

6 Noise Marines, 5 sonic blasters, 1 blastmaster, personal icon. 190pts

6 Summoned lesser daemons. 78pts

6 Summoned lesser daemons. 78pts

Fast Attack

6 Raptors, Icon of Slanesh, 2 melta guns, champ with twin claws. 200pts

Heavy Support

Defiler, Reaper auto cannon, extra close combat weapon. 150pts

Defiler, Reaper auto cannon, twin linked heavy flamer. 150pts

2 Obliterators. 150pts

Total: 2260

Possible additions:Noise Champions. Doom Sirens, Power Swords. +45ea.

Termy champ. +10pts ea.

Termy Combi weapons. 5pts ea


I'm working on it so there are some notes at the bottom.
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PostSubject: Re: How do you write your lists?   Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:04 am

I know H knows how he writes his list, and i use the same method. Its a bit heavy the first time you use it but after a while it becomes second nature. So heres goes:

Once the list has been written fill in the blanks:

Number of troops - pax total not squads, so a full tac squad is 10 not one
Number of vehicles
Number of heavy weapons

no of shots @ 36" and over
Strength 6/7/8/9/10
AP 2

Once its all filed in you can see at a glance at where your list is lacking and make any adjustments. Simples!

Did i forget anything H?
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PostSubject: Re: How do you write your lists?   Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:49 am

I don't really have a structure around how I write lists, I tend to have an idea and work from there.

I'm currently looking into doing more SW but I quite fancy having them Blood Claw heavy so the army will include Swiftclaws, Skyclaws etc. I'm still toying around with the exact specifics but once I get started I'll pop a list up so you can see what I mean.

I've also pretty much just finished an all Khorne Daemon army, I've used all the SCs in the book and the basic premise for the list was that everything should be either in 8s or multiples of.

This is the basic list;

Skarbrand

Skulltaker on Juggernaught

2x 4 Bloodcrushers

2x 8 Bloodletters

1x 8 Fleshhounds (Karanak is included)

1 Soulgrinder

1500

at 1750 (hopefully it'll be finished this weekend) all I add is another unit of 8 Bloodletters and 1 more Soulgrinder.

I've only had a chance to use the 1500 point list once and really enjoyed it, hopefully I'll be able to get playing more over the next couple of months.

James
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PostSubject: Re: How do you write your lists?   Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:33 am

Hehe, while you were busy writing this I was busy using your technique to write a list. Just hope that I can improve my tactics so that the list can perform.
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PostSubject: Re: How do you write your lists?   Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:25 am

Just started rewriting my army list and just realised that what I call a list is probably the way you'd write a roster.
Eg
HQ
Chaos Lord 125pts
WS BS S T W I A Ld Sv
Chaos Lord 6. 5. 4 4 3 5 3. 10 3+
Power Weapon, Plasma Pistol, Personal Icon, Frag & Krak Grenades

I pretty much carry in like this until I have the desired points
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PostSubject: Re: How do you write your lists?   Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:56 am

I never thought of doing it Decados way; I suppose I could run it over what I posted earlier and see how it comes out.
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PostSubject: Re: How do you write your lists?   Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:13 am

as ricky stated i use a system. the way itworks is i write 3 lists that i like the look of and then i compare them using the formula and the list that beats the others in the most number of sections is the one i choose. i then look at where the list wasn't as good as the others and try to tweak it so that it either matches or beats the other lists without compromising the original integrity of the list.

the full formula is
troops
vehicles/monsterous creatures
heavy weapons
(all the below up to kill points are shots per turn)
st5
st6
st7
st8
st9
st10
ap3
ap2
ap1
blast
melta
flame
rapid
30''+ shots
36''+ shots
total no of heavy shots
kill points
no of combat capable units
anti armour (units capable of killing this armour value).
10
11
12
13
14
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PostSubject: Re: How do you write your lists?   Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:49 am

Only missed a couple of bits out then!
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PostSubject: Re: How do you write your lists?   Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:38 pm

I've taken a stab at your method with this list, how does it measure up and does it look credible?

Daemon Prince, mark of Slanesh, wings. 155pts
Lucious the Eternal. 160pts
Greater Daemon. 100pts

Elites
6 Possessed, Icon of Slanesh, Champion. 186pts
Rhino, dozer blade. 40pts
6 Terminators, Icon of Slanesh, Reaper auto cannon, 2 combi meltas, champion with chainfist. 255pts

Troops
6 Noise Marines, 5 sonic blasters, 1 blastmaster, personal icon. 190pts
Noise Champion. Sonic blaster, Doom Siren, Power Sword. +70ea
Rhino, dozer blade. 40pts

6 Noise Marines, 5 sonic blasters, 1 blastmaster, personal icon. 190pts
6 Summoned lesser daemons. 78pts
6 Summoned lesser daemons. 78pts

Fast Attack
6 Raptors, Icon of Slanesh, 2 melta guns, champ with twin claws. 200pts
Hellblade, daemonic possession. 150pts

Heavy Support
Defiler, Reaper auto cannon, extra close combat weapon. 150pts
Defiler, Reaper auto cannon, twin linked heavy flamer. 150pts
2 Obliterators. 150pts

Total: 2342


Troops: 24
MCs: 2
Vehicles: 5
st5: 8
st6: 0
st7: 12
st8: 10
st9: 2
st10: 9
ap3: 3
ap2: 2
ap1: 6
blast: 6
melta: 6
flame: 4
Assault/rapid/pistol: 45
36''+ shots: 18
total no of heavy shots: 45
kill points: 16
no of combat capable units: 9
anti armour (units capable of killing this armour value).
10: 12
11: 11
12: 10
13: 10
14: 5


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PostSubject: My list against iamnothere   Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:06 am

I am involved in the said game, should be fun!!!

Chapter master - storm bolter, artificer armour, power weapon and digital weapon 163
Chaplain - terminator armour 130

10 man tactical squad, flamer, missile launcher and power fist 195
10 man tactical squad flamer missile launcher and power weapon 185
10 man tactical squad flamer missile launcher and power weapon 185
7 man scout squad missile laucher, sniper rifles and SGT has power weapon 126
6 man honour guard squad. Chapter Champion has digital weapons 230
6 man terminator squad 1 assault cannon 270
Terminator assault squad 200
Dreadnought with smoke, searchlight 105
10 man assault squad power fist and 2 plasma pistols 245
Land raider with smoke, searchlight and storm bolter 260
Rhino 35

Total 2329

Let me know what you think guys!!!

Cheers.
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PostSubject: Re: How do you write your lists?   Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:35 am

All I'm going to say Will is extra armour on your dreads and transports is a decent investment and dozer blades.

Just don't leave home without them!

Steve HJ


Last edited by iamnothere on Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:36 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Stupid signature block still not working)
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PostSubject: Re: How do you write your lists?   Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:15 am

The TVH looks good Steve, there is another reason why i like that list as well. Chaos and its not double lash! Woo Hoo.
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PostSubject: Re: How do you write your lists?   Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:06 pm

If you want to fight it or similar points mate then I'm sure we can arrange a game. Cool

My Emperors Children are being dusted off in the hope of a new 'dex later this year but I've never done double lash - it's not broken especially now with loads of anti psycher stuff out there.

I'm hoping with FWs new unit type that I can start useing some FW stuff in tournies.
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PostSubject: Re: How do you write your lists?   Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:03 am

iamnothere the list is nice the only mistake (though my fault for not explaining it) is the no of troops. this is the actual number of men in the list not just troop units. so your troops should be 47.

once i've written my lists like this i generally don't need to playtest them. they have always worked fine and in exactly the way i envisioned.
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PostSubject: Re: How do you write your lists?   Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:15 pm

It's a lot of effort but I can see why you'd use it. You can see where you're weak straight away. Changeing the trooops entry pretty much doubled my numbers lol.
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